Is Sarah Palin the mother of Trig?

Sarah Palin, the Republican vice-presidential nominee, gave birth to her fifth child, Trig, earlier this year. Or did she? There is speculation that Trig is not Sarah’s son, but instead is the son of Sarah’s daughter Bristol.

According to Paul Tosone on iReport:

1. Bristol Palin left school for an extended period of time, due to mononucleosis according to her family for the last 4-5 months of Trig’s pregnancy. Some classmates claimed later that they had seen Bristol Palin pregnant.

2. Sarah Palin did not reveal to anyone outside her family that she was pregnant until 8 months into her pregnancy. Even then, she showed no signs of pregnancy. Alaskan news outlets commented on this, but did not go further. There are pictures of her at Super Tuesday (just a month before the baby was born) at <http://www.adn.com/politics/story/339576.html>.

Here is the picture in question:

Sarah Palin during Super Tuesday (on right)

Sarah Palin during Super Tuesday (on right)

This does not look to me like the picture of a seven month pregnant woman.

3. There are supposed photos showing Bristol Palin having gained weight, possibly significantly so in the abdomen.

4. Sarah Palin went into labor in Dallas just before she was due to deliver a keynote address at the Republican Governors’ Energy Conference, and flew to Seattle, then Alaska while still in labor.

http://www.newsminer.com/news/2008/apr/22/palins-flight-labor-falls-under-scrutiny/

Supposedly, she was in labor during the 8 hour flight, and the crew and attendants did not know.

(Quote from the Article Above):

“”Governor Palin was extremely pleasant to flight attendants and her
stage of pregnancy was not apparent by observation as she didn’t show
any signs of distress,” Boren said.”

This is extremely risky behavior, and you are advised by doctors, traditionally, not to fly once you are past 7 months pregnant. If airlines are made aware, sometimes they will prevent you from flying. Sarah Palin did not inform the flight.

Indeed I would be surprised if an airline would let her fly in the late stages of prgnancy, let alone while in labour. If Trig is indeed Sarah’s child (which must be the most likely possiblity in the absence of evidence to the contrary) then her behaviour was foolhardy and bizarre.

5. Sarah has had four children before, and a prolonged labor that lasted a flight from Dallas to Alaska is extremely unlikely, as labor times usually decrease with the number of births.

Here’s a picture of the Palin family the Anchorage Daily News, taken six weeks before Trig’s birth on March 9th:

Palin Family taken 6 weeks before Trig's birth

Palin Family taken 6 weeks before Trig's birth

Bristol is on the right of this picture, with Sarah next to her. Of the two, which one looks more like she’s pregnant?

One factor in favour of Sarah being Trig’s mother is that Trig has Downs Syndrome, a medical condition that is much more common in infants with an older mother. Another factor is that the Republican Party would no doubt have checked her background before offering her the VP position.

One final comment: in Britain, all births have to be registered, and it is illegal to put false information on a birth certificate. Is this also the case in America?

UPDATE: This story is also being covered at:

BlueBloggin — which says it matters because “Sarah Palin is pro-life” and a “proponent of abstinence only education”.

Daily Kos — which accuses the Alaska Governor’s website of removing pictures of Sarah taken while she was pregnant.

James Lee has a blog — who says that whether Trig is or isn’t Sarah’s, it reflects badly on her either way.

Reveries of a Solitary Walker — who is sure the baby isn’t Sarah’s.

Will in the World isn’t sure the rumours are true, and isn’t convinvced they matter either.

Jesurgislac makes a point about Downs Syndrome:

Downs syndrome babies may be in need of immediate medical attention at birth if they are to survive. Most urgently, an echocardiogram needs to be performed — DS babies can have congenital heart disease. A complete blood count needs to be done as soon as possible — a DS fetus may have leukemia. (There are other tests, but none quite so urgent.) A DS baby needs to be born in hospital if at all possible, and one with the best possible pediatrics department.

It was perhaps unwise of Governor Palin to fly to Texas, eight months pregnant, but it was downright maniacally irresponsible of her to decide to fly back when she knew she was in labour. And I cannot believe that the physician she says she spoke to in Texas would have okayed her flying back, while in early labour, when if she gave birth to Trig on the plane, there was a small but not miniscule chance that Trig would never have left the plane alive – and certainly, it would have been safer to stay in Texas, check into a hospital there, and give birth.

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45 Responses to Is Sarah Palin the mother of Trig?

  1. Diane Gordon says:

    Should we care about this? I don’t think so. If Palin faked a pregnancy to protect her daughter, she’s being a good mother. I don’t like Palin’s politics, but really, this is pure sleaze, and has nothing to do with the presidential election.

  2. Paulette says:

    VERY interesting.

  3. mulloverthis says:

    This speculation is ridiculous. Bristol does not look pregnant at all. That is not a pregnancy bump. Women know the difference. That is a eat too much bump, or possibly a fibroid-type bump. Pregnancy at that late stage would have carried a bump bit higher up on the torso.
    Many women carry babies in their backs. Meaning, they do not protrude as much as others, b/c most of the baby is towards the back. These types of pregnancies may find the mother protruding more around 7 to 8 months. Finally, on the People magazine cover, the youngest Palin daughter has a similar bump. These people just may not have the best diets, as their mom is a governor and now running for VP of the US. These types of insinuations against young girls who have nothing to do with an election, are disgusting. We know Obama did drugs and sat in a crazy church for 20 years. This type of gossip involving children is reprehensible.

  4. cabalamat says:

    Diane Gordon: Should we care about this? I don’t think so.

    I care whether politicians are liars or not. You are free to disagree.

    If Palin faked a pregnancy to protect her daughter, she’s being a good mother.

    If Palin lives in a society where there’s a stigma against unmarried mothers, I can think of at least 3 better ways for her to protect Bristol from that stigma:

    1. encourage her to use contraception
    2. encourage her to have an abortion
    3. work to reduce the stigma

    Incidently, all three of these are against what Palin and the Republicans stand for, so it’s a legitimate political issue.

    If Palin thinks sweeping things under the carpet is better than confronting them, I think that reflects badly on her.

  5. cabalamat says:

    mulloverthis: Bristol does not look pregnant at all.

    She looks a good deal more pregnant than Sarah does!

    That is not a pregnancy bump. Women know the difference.

    Is there any evidenced for the belief that “women know the difference”; i.e. have there been controlled studies of men and women being shown pictures of women who are or aren’t pregnant, with the women being able to tell which is which more reliably than the men.

    These types of insinuations against young girls who have nothing to do with an election, are disgusting. We know Obama did drugs and sat in a crazy church for 20 years.

    I don’t think it’s shameful to be pregnant therefore if Bristol is Trig’s mother, I don’t regard that as an “insinuation”. (To clarify my position: I’m not saying that Bristol is Trig’s mum, merely that she might be).

    Nor, for that matter, do I think it’s shameful to do drugs.

  6. Carissa says:

    Okay, so the governor is covering up her daughter’s pregnancy and yet she allows her to take this picture. Why? Why not hid her in the back? Also, if the story is made up, why then have the Dallas to Anchorage narrative included in the story? Why not have the “baby” be born in the middle of the night in Alaska? If this is a cover-up, then they didn’t do a good job. Get a life liberals. The Republicans beat you again. Take it!

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  8. cabalamat says:

    Okay, so the governor is covering up her daughter’s pregnancy

    Maybe she is, maybe she isn’t.

    and yet she allows her to take this picture. Why? Why not hid her in the back?

    That might seem a reasonable thing to do. Or have her wear loosely-fitting clothing.

    Also, if the story is made up, why then have the Dallas to Anchorage narrative included in the story? Why not have the “baby” be born in the middle of the night in Alaska?

    Good point (one I made in another article). That and the DS (more common with older mothers) are certainly evidence in favour of the theory that Trig is Sarah’s.

  9. Anyway you look at it, Palin’s story is utterly responsible. Either her water broke, she delivered a speech, and then flew for 8 hours to a place where the natal care she received probably wasn’t as good as what she could have gotten where she left (for a child she apparently already knew had Down’s syndrome),

    or her daughter got pregnant and she freaked, pulled her daughter out of school, claimed the pregnancy as her own to the media, and then again after birth.

    Neither scenario = good mother.

    Then again, regardless of her actions in this particular situation, she’s still completely crazy and not fit for the office for which she has been asked to run. Period.

  10. brightviolet says:

    “Get a life liberals. The Republicans beat you again. Take it!”

    lol what are you, 12 years old?

    Now if there were to be a presidential candidate who would advocate for creating a license that gave people permission to contribute to discussions on the internet (You must be at least x.xx smart to ride the internet), I would vote for him regardless of party affiliation.

    Until then, I am writing in David Hasselhoff on my ballot. Because he sang a fine “Amazing Grace” on his album “David Hasselhoff Sings America” (available only in Germany).

  11. brightviolet says:

    PS: As for the Dallas to Anchorage narrative:

    The bay WAS basically born in the middle of nowhere in Alaska. She went from Anchorage to a regional medical hospital near the village where she was mayor. Now does that sound like an intelligent decision for someone whose amniotic fluid was leaking, about to give birth to a premature child with Down’s Syndrome?

    And where precisely is the record of the child’s birth? Because the hospital has no record of it!

  12. Pants Along says:

    Here is a possible way the story played out.
    Bristol gets pregnant, we all know this is possible and how…
    Bristol hides pregnancy from parents, we all know this is possible and how…
    Bristol’s belly gets bigger… family photo taken.
    Sarah becomes concerned about Bristol ever growing belly bump, confronts Bristol, she confesses…
    Perhaps this discovery happens 4-6 months into the pregnancy.
    Bristol goes to OGYN with mom and has test done, downs discovered… sadly.
    Giving the kid up for adoption is now out of the question.
    Bristol taken out of school.
    Sarah decides to make public think baby is her own to avoid scandal over pregnant 17 year old daughter.
    At 7 months gestation, Sarah tells public and begins wearing fake belly bump.
    The rest is history.

  13. Jerry says:

    The picture was took 2006 not 2008.

  14. cabalamat says:

    Jerry: The picture was took 2006 not 2008

    As a number of people have been saying. Is there any evidence (Internet Archive, etc) that it is from 2006? It would be nice if the file included Exif data, but unfortunately it doesn’t.

  15. Dan O says:

    Big deal. Ha ha, she still have more useful experience than obama. But hey, you gave it a shot.

  16. dadatroll says:

    Wait, wait, don’t tell me: did the hot doctor whose wife switched her dead daughter with a Romanian orphan to get back at her abusive husband deliver the child during a Halloween party?

  17. Michael says:

    As Jerry says, the picture is old. You’ve jumped on a bandwagon that is quickly losing its wheels. Yes, Sarah is the mother of Trig. Stop spreading unsubstantiated rumors.

  18. UndecidedMan says:

    My question is if these accusations are true, what are the Republicans going to say? She lied for a good reason? Leave her alone because she is mother? If it we’re Baracks daughter who was 16 and pregnant i’m pretty confident the Republicans would have a field day with that information. Above all, if it’s true, she’s a liar and is setting a poor example for her kids and I dont want a liar for my Vice President, Republican or Democrat.

  19. Michael says:

    And finally,

    http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN2944356420080901

    I hope the bump when the wheels fell off didn’t hurt too bad. Don’t worry, another wagon will come along soon. They always do.

  20. cabalamat says:

    Michael: Yes, Sarah is the mother of Trig.

    So you say. What evidence do you have for that? And if you don’t have evidence, aren’t you spreading unsubstanciated factoids.

    Stop spreading unsubstantiated rumors.

    It’s my blog and I’ll say what I like.

  21. cabalamat says:

    Michael: I hope the bump when the wheels fell off didn’t hurt too bad.

    You seem to be under the impression that I’m saying Trig is Bristol’s son (something I’ve never said is the case) and that therefore I’ll be unhappy if/when it turns out not to be the case.

    If so, I suggest you have reading comprehension problems.

  22. It’s worth noting that today’s announcement ultimately means nothing. If Bristol is five month’s pregnant, the conception would have been at the end of April.

    The possibility of conception is often higher in the month following birth than at any other time.

    Either that, or Bristol was really busy while her mom was in the hospital. You’d think the oldest kid still around (the brother’s in Iraq) would have been watching her younger siblings.

  23. Michael says:

    Cabalamat,

    The bump comment was in reference to the blog band wagon that everyone was jumping on when the rumor first started. Sorry it didn’t catch. I had no intention of implying how you should feel.

    Yes, it is your blog. I will desist.

    Michael

  24. dadatroll says:

    Wait a second, I thought Bree faked her daughter’s pregnancy.

  25. Lawrence says:

    This is how it goes.

    Sarah Palin daughter got pregnant by the brother-in-law that is why Governor Palin
    tried to have him fired. She cover-up the pregnancy – and called it her own because
    of the embarassment to the family, never thinking she would be offered the VP..

    Bottom line – McCain has bad judgement and a record of reckless behaviors..watch CNN – McCain Revealed

  26. mylifeasabillionaire says:

    This is all crap. Sarah Palin is pro-life so she wouldn’t be encouraging her daughter to have an abortion. I’m quite sure that Mrs. Palin had her last baby, and was not going into some bizarre scheme to hide her daughter’s pregnancy. After all, if there was such a stigma over that, wouldn’t she be doing the same now?

    A pregnant daughter has no bearing on how well a woman would do her job. So why does this matter? Seriously, why does this matter?

    Lawrence: McCain has bad judgement? How? I think Sarah Palin is a fantastic pick and so do most conservatives. How does that make him a bad judge of character? Wouldn’t we all be disappointed in him if he had chosen the wrong person? Furthermore, you want me to watch CNN so I can see what John McCain is really like? Right. Because they put forth such a nice, unbiased opinion. That’s the FIRST place I’m going to get my information from.

    One more thing (this reply is getting ridiculously long, sorry), Obama’s daughter would never be caught pregnant. See, if her daddy had his way, she would have an abortion so fast it would make your head spin. Remember, Obama doesn’t want his daughter to be “cursed” with a child. And that sir, is not a man I want for my president whether he be Republican, Democrat, or Independent.

    As for the evidence of whether or not Trig is the son of Sarah Palin and not her daughter, well I dunno. Maybe a visit to the hospital and the corresponding records would be good evidence. Just a thought…

    Oh, and as for Sarah Palin’s daughter having mono and being out of school for four to five months, well, I had mono once upon a time (about two years ago, actually). I was so sick, I’m surprised I didn’t drop out of school (it was my senior year of high school). To this day, I still have issues relating to mono in that I get sick all the time. It isn’t at all odd or bizarre that Mrs. Palin’s daughter got ill with mono and was out for a long period of time. That’s normal.

    Newsflash: Palin doesn’t live in a society where there’s a stigma against unmarried mothers. That happened back in a world about fifty years ago. These days, you can be pregnant and unmarried and it won’t matter a bit. Doesn’t matter if you’re democrat or republican. Oh, and why would Palin encourage her daughter to get an abortion? By doing so, she would be directly going against her core beliefs which would be more detrimental to a child than just about anything. That’s right. Tell your kids and everyone else one thing, but when it comes down to the wire, do something else completely. That’s a great parent for you! Sarah Palin would have screwed her daughter over had she done such a thing.

    Bottom line, this whole speculation about Sarah Palin’s daughter is rude, distasteful, and I am tired of it. The poor girl is only 17 years old, which is only a year younger than me. I cannot even begin to imagine how nasty gossip and hurtful comments shown by people all over the United States would bother me. I would probably lose my mind.

  27. indentifyfriendorfoe says:

    Unbelievable that you would print such unresearched and unsubstantiated garbage.
    Another blogger that has no moral compass. As for the folks that read your trash and refer people to CNN…you have got to be kidding. Ignorance is rampant, and apparently you are out to further the cause.
    Good luck.

    Just the opposite of this, a blog that supports America patiotismisneverparttime.wordpress.com

    Tom

  28. jessicarrot says:

    This is all pretty disgusting. The possibility of conception the month following birth is higher than any other time? I’d say the possibility of having sex the month following a birth is the least likely than at any other time. The mom covering for her daughter’s pregnancy is a dead story. The strain kids of politicians feel has got to be incredible. Anyone with kids in politics knows they are putting their kids through the ringer. If a pregnant 17 year old daughter is all the dirt on Palin, she’s still got my vote.

  29. cabalamat says:

    indentifyfriendorfoe: Unbelievable that you would print such unresearched and unsubstantiated garbage.

    It isn’t garbage. Everything I wrote was accurate. Fore example, I said “There is speculation that Trig is not Sarah’s son, but instead is the son of Sarah’s daughter Bristol.” and indeed at the time I wrote it there was such speculation.

    Note that I didn’t assert that Trig was Bristol’s son; nor would I do so unless I was sure it was true.

    I bet you cannot find a single factual innaccuracy anywhere on my blog.

    Another blogger that has no moral compass.

    Oh I do has a moral compass; it just points in a different direction to yours.

  30. cabalamat says:

    jessicarrot: The possibility of conception the month following birth is higher than any other time? I’d say the possibility of having sex the month following a birth is the least likely than at any other time.

    I agree!

  31. Bruce says:

    Did Bristol deliver a baby, then immediately get pregnant again? It’s possible.

  32. cabalamat says:

    Bruce: Did Bristol deliver a baby, then immediately get pregnant again? It’s possible.

    It’s not very likely though.

  33. Ranger01 says:

    I want to know how a mother that’s delivered a child go back to work regardless of the child’s disability. In most cases you would need at least minimum of 4 weeks. So, it’s very possible to have a baby within the same month. It’s also known this has happen more than one would want to know. I guess he should have preferred to shoot somewhere else and not so close to the barn.

  34. Ranger01 says:

    Bristol, slow it down baby girl that’s not where the answer is…
    They swim quite well…..

  35. Ranger01 says:

    Sarah, your house has a hugh leak and need repairs.

  36. People will say anything. In the family photo Palin is being covered by a child, a strategic placement for a pregnant woman, I did that when I was pregnant with my youngest, the eldest downplayed the size of the belly while standing at an angle in front (I am not politician I just gained a ton of weight and didn’t want it documented due to my job). Also at 17 Bristol can read, if you are wrong, which I am almost certain you are, congrats on making an already awkward and slightly insecure teenager become bulimic because you people are essentially calling her a fatty and I am sure her and her friends are googling her. I hope ya’ll feel good about yourselves getting traffic while trashing a teenager.

    You said above that you printed factual information, yet facts must be written in a neutral tone. Your agenda is all over this post.

  37. cabalamat says:

    poisonapplesauce: congrats on making an already awkward and slightly insecure teenager become bulimic because you people are essentially calling her a fatty and I am sure her and her friends are googling her. I hope ya’ll feel good about yourselves getting traffic while trashing a teenager.

    1. I have no idea whether Bristol is awkward and/or insecure

    2. I have no evidence to suggest she is bulimic; nor have you unless I am mistaken

    3. I am not calling her a “fatty”; you are.

    4. I am not “trashing” her at all, unlike you I haven’t said anything derogatory about her.

  38. “You said above that you printed factual information, yet facts must be written in a neutral tone. Your agenda is all over this post.”

    Um, what? It would seriously take quite a while to parse everything wrong about that statement.

  39. Lolly says:

    This whole scandal is blowing up like a mushroom cloud, bigger and bigger every hour! I just wish that Sarah Palin would extinguish the entire mess by revealing to the world the birth records from the hospital!!! So simple!!! But the hospital she claims to have no record whatsoever of Trig’s birth. This would give one pause.
    Seems to me, from what we’ve read so far, she was willing to jeopardize not only her daughter’s life, but her grandson’s as well, by taking care of things right there in the Governor’s mansion. The people who know her well, up there in Alaska, are not reticent to remark about Sarah Palin that she is out and out crazy. And I think they’re afraid of her….. with good reason.

  40. Laura benson says:

    Trig is Palin’s grand son. Trailer trash Palin.

    Drop Palin and include Mitt Romney. Not too late. Given McCain’s age and his mental health, he can kick the bucket any time. Let us save the presidency and the country.

  41. Palin' McCain says:

    Palin in no more than a cheap cunning whore. Trigg is her son.

    Palin’ McCain! The new democrat slogan

  42. Real PA Voter says:

    This is the tip of the iceberg.
    Sarah Palin is just one more corrupt politician
    Go back to your snowbanks, you crook,
    you’re through in this town!!!!!

  43. PalinBabyQuestion says:

    Here are two thoughtful sites that are trying to collect and publish information on the (still open) question of who are the parents of Trig Palin:
    http://www.geocities.com/palinbabyquestion
    http://www.palindeception.com

    or if you have to “copy and paste:”
    http://www.geocities.com/palinbabyquestion
    http://www.palindeception.com

  44. eyepoetry says:

    1.) I work at a daycare and one of the mothers I work with was visiting her family in South Africa, her water broke a month early and she went into labor. She was not going to have her baby in South Africa or she would have to stay there in a hospital for 3 months. Its a National Law. So she, in progressive labor, flew 22 hours home and had her baby in the states. So it can happen, especially if a mother has given birth before.

    2.) Sarah Palin in out about her daughter’s pregnancy and she was(is) as Governor. So yes! Her daughter was pregnant and apparently still is.

    I’m not saying that it’s impossible, just that you people need to get you facts straight.

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